# Jekyll and Liquid 5

**URL:** <https://talk.jekyllrb.com/t/jekyll-and-liquid-5/6331>\
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**Created:** [August 14, 2021, 1:51pm UTC](https://talk.jekyllrb.com/t/jekyll-and-liquid-5/6331 "2021-08-14T13:51:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![chmaynard](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/talk.jekyllrb.com/chmaynard/32/2400_2.png) [@chmaynard](https://talk.jekyllrb.com/u/chmaynard)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 1:51pm UTC](https://talk.jekyllrb.com/t/jekyll-and-liquid-5/6331/1 "2021-08-14T13:51:57Z")

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I’d like to try out a few of the new tags introduced in Liquid 5. For example, the Liquid 5 docs recommend using render instead of include. Can I upgrade to Liquid 5 or am I restricted to the tags listed in the Jekyll docs?

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**Author:** ![chuckhoupt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/talk.jekyllrb.com/chuckhoupt/32/523_2.png) [@chuckhoupt](https://talk.jekyllrb.com/u/chuckhoupt)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 3:24pm UTC](https://talk.jekyllrb.com/t/jekyll-and-liquid-5/6331/2 "2021-08-14T15:24:35Z")

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I gather that Liquid 5 introduces breaking changes that may make it impossible to officially integrate with Jekyll 4. There is a pull request that shows how to upgrade Jekyll:

> <https://github.com/jekyll/jekyll/pull/8662>
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> fixes #8615
> fixes #8535
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> Unfortunately, liquid v5 is not backwards compatible… with liquid 4 version - there are plenty of \[breaking changes\](https://github.com/Shopify/liquid/blob/master/History.md#breaking-changes).
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> And while I managed to loosen up dependency, it even compiles and deploys. I wonder what other issues can liquid gem update bring?